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Starting: Sat Nov 1 00:06:37 EDT 2008
Ending: Sun Nov 30 23:03:47 EST 2008
Messages: 276

• [MindHub] POL: TRANSFORM Election Alert - Yes on Prop. 1A   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] Shameful prop 8 behavior   Brian L. Baker
• [MindHub] POL: Fresno Bee's Sunday Vision section has Perea, Swearengin in their own words   Boren, Jim - Fresno
• [MindHub] Prop 8 Bad Behavior   Dan Waterhouse
  • [MindHub] Prop 8 Bad Behavior   Deborah Speer
• [MindHub] EVENT   Elizabeth Dobson
• [MindHub] Denial & hangovers   Jeff Gerlitz
  • [MindHub] Denial & hangovers   Deborah Speer
• [MindHub] (com-pol-soc) signs, miracles, wonders, donuts, and Roger Waters lyrics (with a heiffer in bondage)   E Field
• [MindHub] Mindhub-list Digest, Vol 236, Issue 5   Paul Saito
• [MindHub] Retrospective on Post Election   Dan Waterhouse
• [MindHub] Art & Wine at Pacific Crest Winery   Gail Daley
• [MindHub] prop 8   Gail Daley
• [MindHub] POL: Vote YES on Measure L   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] REQ: GET A BLOG   Terence Wallace
• [MindHub] Winter Wonderland Art show   Maria Contreras
• [MindHub] ART EVENT/ EXHIBIT: CALL for ARTISTS!   Olivia Muñoz
• [MindHub] Prop 8 rally & Rocky Horror....hmmmm   Cindy Schoonmaker
  • [MindHub] Fresno - Blog the Vote '08 video   Albritton, Will - Fresno
• [MindHub] Event: Creative Fresno's Creative Blender!   Donavan Byrn
• [MindHub] Those who report it; Those who accept it   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] POL: YES for High Speed Rail in Downtown Fresno   Anthony Cresap
• [MindHub] REMINDER: Fresno Swede Fest the 2nd!   Bryan Harley
• [MindHub] OT: cool events past and future   Suzanne Bertz-Rosa
• [MindHub] POL: Vote for Mayor   Jackie Grazier
• [MindHub] POL: Make Friends with Your Enemies   Jaguar Bennett
• [MindHub] NEWS: 1. Where can we get objective information?   Aaron Collins
  • [MindHub] NEWS: 1. Where can we get objective information?   Chuck Krugman
• [MindHub] add some THEREMIN to your ART HOP   Blake Jones
• [MindHub] EVENT: The50th SEPIA Fashion Show and Casino Night   Tanya Crabb
• [MindHub] EVENT: Veterans Voices Film Premiere - Nov 11 @ 2pm   MaryJane Skjellerup
  • [MindHub] EVENT: Veterans Voices Film Premiere - Nov 11 @ 2pm   MaryJane Skjellerup
• [MindHub] News You Might Have Missed   Dan Waterhouse
• [MindHub] CA Poets in the Schools Call for Instructors   Cindy Wathen
• [MindHub] Manuel Munoz Wins $50K Whiting Award   Cindy Wathen
• [MindHub] ADMIN: Testing ...   Robert G. Werner
• [MindHub] ART: Art Show @ Trinity featuring artist Jon Ayala and more   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] Event: Patrick Contreras at Starline   patrick contreras
• [MindHub] EVENT: Ready for some fun?... See ROCKY HORROR this weekend!...   Julie Ann Keller
• [MindHub] ADMIN: Technical Difficulties ...   Robert G. Werner
• [MindHub] ART: New Gallery this Arthop   marcos dorado
• [MindHub] Fresno Scrapers   Henry D. Delcore
• [MindHub] EVENT - Jazz up your ArtHop   Mallory Moad
• [MindHub] ART: art hop at the Downtown Club   Donnalee Dunne
• [MindHub] COM: City of Fresno Historic Preservation Commission meeting, Monday, November 3, 2008   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] Objective information   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] ART HOP - JULIANA HARRIS - PAINTINGS AT FIG TREE GALLERY   Juliana Harris
• [MindHub] EVENT: the INNER EAR Poetry Jam @ Full Cirlce Brewing Co   bryan medina
• [MindHub] Ashley Swearengin   Holly Carter
• [MindHub] Event: Creative Fresno November Board Meeting   Tracy Olsen
• [MindHub] Art: ArtHop @ Clay Mix tomorrow   Ritsuko Miyazaki
• [MindHub] COM: Response to Randy's Nelson's Soundbites, HPC Meeting November 3rd   Karana Hattersley-Drayton
• [MindHub] event; Arthop   glen delpit
• [MindHub] POL: Where were you when Obama delivered his Victory Speech?   tatetrg
• [MindHub] ART: California Arts Academy, Art Hop   mindhub at fultonmall.net
• [MindHub] Annual Miniature Art show in Dec   Gail Daley
• [MindHub] (com-soc-edu-pol) Faith, Hope, Math... culpability   E Field
• [MindHub] JazzFresno presents Salute to Sinatra benefit - this Sunday   JazzFresno
• [MindHub] (com-soc-pol) faith, hope, math, culpability NEW IMPROVED! (and kinda readable... no foolin')   E Field
• [MindHub] Gallery 25 ArtHop Nov 6th   bb781212 at comcast.net
• [MindHub] (com-soc) arrrrrrrrrgh... sorry...   E Field
• [MindHub] OT: ArtHop Show   Donavan Byrn
• [MindHub] COM: Building Green Homes in Fresno   Albert Cano
• [MindHub] It's a shame . . .   aileen imperatrice
• [MindHub] some more good news   Anthony Cresap
• [MindHub] Calendar of Events   Gary Gagnebin
• [MindHub] First 5 Fresno County Child-Friendly Business Awards~ Now accepting Nominations!   Courtney Shapiro
• [MindHub] COM: Building Green   Karana Hattersley-Drayton
• [MindHub] EVENT: MindForum -- The Greenest Building is The One That is Already Built   Suzanne Bertz-Rosa
• [MindHub] COIL YOGA EVENT -Kirtan Concert with Sean Johnson and the Wild Lotus Band   katie flinn
• [MindHub] ART: NEW ArtHop on Nov. 6 @ dcac, 754 P Street in downtown Fresno   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] A President; A Mayor; and a Proposition   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] our annoucment   Michael Small
• [MindHub] Sarah Chang coming to Fresno next weekend   Cynthia Cooper
• [MindHub] COM: City of Fresno Planning Commission meeting, Wednesday, November 5, 2008   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] Event: Creative Fresno's Creative Blender - Tonight!   Donavan Byrn
• [MindHub] Objective interviews   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] (com-test-format) -format testing 'rich text' vs 'plain text'   E Field
• [MindHub] (com-format-test) Plain Text submission (for formatting)   E Field
• [MindHub] (com-test-text-formatting) well, okay then..   E Field
• [MindHub] EVENT   Elizabeth Dobson
• [MindHub] pol ev: Fresno Stonewall Democrats to meet   Charles Krugman
• [MindHub] Event: 33rd Annual Next to New Rummage Sale!   Jennifer L. Johnson
• [MindHub] JazzFresno's Salute to Sinatra - THIS SUNDAY   JazzFresno
• [MindHub] OT: KVPT Holiday Online Auction   Jim Page
• [MindHub] The Patrick Contreras Band at Starline 4 national TV and FREE ELECTRIC VIOLIN   patrick contreras
• [MindHub] Downtown Thoughts   Joe Moore
• [MindHub] (com-soc) two days later, once the shock wears off, and the ache begins   E Field
• [MindHub] (com-soc) two days after (pt.2)   E Field
• [MindHub] (com-soc) two days after (pt. 1)   E Field
• [MindHub] (com-soc) two days later pt. 2 (reformatted)   E Field
• [MindHub] (com-plea) ---okay, moderators what is going on...   E Field
• [MindHub] Downtown thoughts   James Collier
• [MindHub] (com-soc-write) there's your you, and there's others you, and never the twain will meet...   E Field
• [MindHub] Your tax dollars at work?   Jerry Duncan
  • [MindHub] Your tax dollars at work?   Henry D. Delcore
  • [MindHub] Your tax dollars at work?   Jan Minami
• [MindHub] COM: Downtown Thoughts   Sarah Campbell
  • [MindHub] Downtown Thoughts   Joe Moore
    • [MindHub] Downtown Thoughts   Charles Krugman
• [MindHub] Event: Mark your Calendar for an afternoon/eve of music --a party/benefit for CAFE' CORAZON! (at Audie's/Fred's)   Blake Jones
• [MindHub] Forest City Announces Layoffs   Joe Moore
• [MindHub] Event: Creative Fresno November Board Meeting   Tracy Olsen
• [MindHub] friendly advice   J.EndlessTrail at gmail.com
  • [MindHub] friendly advice   Brian L. Baker
• [MindHub] Article in the Sunday Bee "Homeless Sprawl"   Kiel Thomas Famellos-Schmidt
• [MindHub] Downtown ideas and opportunities   David Pauling
• [MindHub] Forest City Announces Layoffs   Timothy M. Stearns
  • [MindHub] Forest City Announces Layoffs   Charles Krugman
    • [MindHub] Forest City Announces Layoffs   Joe Moore
• [MindHub] (com-soc-squabble) ahem...   E Field
• [MindHub] Happiest of Birthdays to Eric Field!   Cindy Wathen
• [MindHub] Contributory dynamism   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] COM: Forest City Layoffs...Does Fresno Get Severance Pay?   Jodi Fitzpatrick
• [MindHub] COM: Forest City Layoffs...Does Fresno Get Severance Pay?/ Kashian's Chinatown   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] "Edges of Bounty" Book Signing at Woodward Library Tonight   Cindy Wathen
• [MindHub] World Meditation Day   Veena Kapoor
• [MindHub] Catholic Charities Food Drive   Diana Jackin
• [MindHub] EVENTS: Creative Fresno helps the welcome back the Met   Suzanne Bertz-Rosa
• [MindHub] [EVENT] Saturday Nov 15: M3TR0P0L1S - 3 rooms, 14 dj's, 5 hours at the Fresno Met Museum   Bradley
• [MindHub] EVENT: So, I heard Rocky Horror was all sold out... True? No!   Julie Ann and Chris
• [MindHub] EVENT: KVPT Special Outreach Panel Presentation: Alzheimer's Resources   Denise Lanier
• [MindHub] ART: Bill Minschew Memorial this Sat., Nov. 15 @ 10 am   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] (com-soc-soc) 45 and twelve hours in Fresno: post election, Freud, Bernays and Jim Jones (and where's Henry T?)   E Field
• [MindHub] ART EVENT/EXHIBIT: Small Treasures CALL FOR ARTISTS!   Olivia Muñoz
• [MindHub] Lego Fresno and Forest City   Sally Caglia
  • [MindHub] Lego Fresno and Forest City   Jerry Duncan
    • [MindHub] Fresno PBID (formerly Lego Fresno and Forest City)   Jan Minami
• [MindHub] Show Nov 21 You don't want to miss!!!   nativevisionz at juno.com
• [MindHub] Come see us at the Met   aileen imperatrice
• [MindHub] Biz: jnj vhs, seeking perspective   jeffrey booth
• [MindHub] Entrepreneur Unplugged -- Arthur Dyson   Tori Randolph
• [MindHub] First 5 Fresno County Child-Friendly Business Awards~ Now accepting Nominations!   Courtney Shapiro
• [MindHub] Eric Field   Heather Berg
• [MindHub] CREATURAMA at the Met!   John English
• [MindHub] Artist Call   Gail Daley
• [MindHub] Cultural Arts District Meeting: Tuesday, November 18th @ 3:30 PM   Cary Catalano
• [MindHub] Cultural Arts District   MARQUEZNANCY at aol.com
• [MindHub] EVENT: Hot Jazz at the Met this Friday and Saturday!   Mallory Moad
• [MindHub] Event calendar submission for Fresno Filmworks   Valerie
• [MindHub] New MetTalk Audio Series podcast up at fresnomet.org   John English
• [MindHub] COM&EVENTS: ACEL-Fresno's Public Info Meetings   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] EVENT: Marketing Think Tank   Pamela Hutton
• [MindHub] Live Salsa Music this Thursday night!   rowan hernandez
• [MindHub] FRESNO MET INVITES LOCAL DANCE TROUPES!   Cris Howell
• [MindHub] New Mindfulness Workshop: November 24, Dec 1, 8, 15, 22, 29   lori granger
• [MindHub] Peace Community Crafts Faire Dec. 6   Doreen
• [MindHub] ART EVENT/ EXHIBIT: LAST CALL for ARTISTS!   Olivia Muñoz
• [MindHub] Lunch with Coach Wiggins   Deborah McBride
• [MindHub] N E O N - looking for artists...   George
• [MindHub] Art: Upcoming events @ Clay Mix   Ritsuko Miyazaki
• [MindHub] COM: Housing and Community Development Commission meeting Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 5 pm - 6:00 pm   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] EVENT: the INNER EAR Poetry Jam @ Full Cirlce Brewing Co 11/20   bryan medina
• [MindHub] EVENT: Last Two: Chefs at the Market- Cooking demos   Felix Muzquiz
• [MindHub] Dreamweaver CS4 Help   Allyson Robison
• [MindHub] [EVENT] Saturday Nov 15: M3TR0P0L1S - 3 rooms, 14 dj's, 5 hours at the Fresno Met Museum   Bradley
• [MindHub] Art Event, Annie   Scott Olson
• [MindHub] Swede Fest The Second coming next week; deadlines for entries extended   Roque Rodriguez
• [MindHub] Short film submissions request   joy quigley
• [MindHub] Hippie Show   joannecalhoun at comcast.net
• [MindHub] Short film submissions request   joy quigley
• [MindHub] EVENT: FLYP Speaker Series featuring Dr. John Boogaert   Tim Sudiacal
• [MindHub] Bailout madness...Give us the money   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] Don't Miss a Great Football Game   Lucy Ruiz
• [MindHub] EVENT: March against religious biogotry, Saturday, 10:30 AM, 11/15,   Anthony Cresap
  • [MindHub] Another note about the protest / March against religious bigotry, Saturday, 10:30 AM, 11/15,   Anthony Cresap
• [MindHub] COM: City of Fresno Southeast Growth Area Specific Plan Scoping Meeting, Thursday, November 13, 2008,   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] High Speed Rail   Anthony Cresap
  • [MindHub] High Speed Rail   Tom Bailey
• [MindHub] Ribbon-cutting at Arte Americas   Grace Solis
• [MindHub] (com-soc-fem/fam health) Laura Ingalls had it rougher than you think, with Madonna and Child on a curb on Shaw   E Field
• [MindHub] Downtown Legos and PBID   Joe Moore
  • [MindHub] Downtown Legos and PBID   satrngrl at sbcglobal.net
• [MindHub] COM: Fresno Activity Center and Corridor Intensification Study, Tuesday, December 9, 2008   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] FW: Calendar of Events   Gary Gagnebin
• [MindHub] OT: rumor is...   Suzanne Bertz-Rosa
• [MindHub] pol ev:Fresno County Democratic Women's Club to meet   Charles Krugman
• [MindHub] Affirming Joe Moore's comments about Legos and Downtown   DShapazian at aol.com
• [MindHub] OT: I love the peeps at Severance and here's why...   Suzanne Bertz-Rosa
• [MindHub] Metropolis   Jennifer L. Johnson
• [MindHub] (com-soc-Film) Heads up on a stunning (coupl-a) series on the BBC   E Field
• [MindHub] EVENT: A MUSIC Filled Party - Benefit for CAFE CORAZON   fezgurl at aol.com
• [MindHub] Mindhub-list Digest, Vol 239, Issue 1   Adrian Rodriguez
• [MindHub] ART: Fund Your Innovation Workshop on Nov. 19 @ CSUF   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] Thurs Nov 20 Arthop Photography by Naomi   Naomi Hendrix
• [MindHub] Volunteer for KIDS!   Katrina Semsem
• [MindHub] Another MindHub KFSR Challenge!   Cindy Wathen
• [MindHub] ART: CALL FOR ARTISTS: Winter Wonderland Fine Art Show Dec. 6 by MC Productions formerly Park Avenue West Interiors   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] Lunch with Coach Wiggins   Deborah McBride
• [MindHub] ART EVENT: Town Hall Meeting with Michael Mazur, FAM Exec. Director   Starr Lopez
• [MindHub] Mindhub-list Digest, Vol 239, Issue 1   dancincuty78 at aol.com
• [MindHub] ART EVENT: Opening Reception at Fresno Art Museum   Starr Lopez
• [MindHub] Event: Woodward Shakespeare Library Reading   Laura Vogt
• [MindHub] Arte Americas dedicates Plaza Addition   Nené Casares
• [MindHub] Friday Nov, 21 @ the Milano Down Town Fulton Mall Fresno   nativevisionz at juno.com
• [MindHub] Gunpowder Drawing by Robert Weibel   Robert Weibel
• [MindHub] KFSR...Everyone   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] [Tech] Wi-Max   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] Government efficiency --   William Tranquilli
• [MindHub] EVENT: the INNER EAR Poetry Jam @ Full Cirlce Brewing Co 11/20   bryan medina
• [MindHub] First 5 Fresno County Child-Friendly Business Awards~ Now accepting Nominations!   Courtney Shapiro
• [MindHub] EVENT: Blood and Marrow Registry Drive   Chris Fiorentino
• [MindHub] ART: Artist Brent Brooks Memorial Services on Nov. 20 @ Margaret Hudson Gallery   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] EVENT: FresnoBeehive.com's Birthday Party   Osegueda, Mike - Fresno
• [MindHub] EVENT: University Dance Theater Student Show @ CSU Fresno   Kellie Townsend
• [MindHub] EVENT: Entrepreneur In Residence Reception Wednesday 5:30-7:30pm   Timothy M. Stearns
• [MindHub] Hands-On Hero Awards (First 5 Fresno County)   Courtney Shapiro
• [MindHub] Mindhub-list Digest, Vol 239, Issue 2   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] Mindhub-list Digest, Vol 239, Issue 2   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] Come Plant Giant Sequoias!   Mehmet McMillan
• [MindHub] ART: TONIGHT! Fresno Magazine's Best of Fresno Party, Nov. 19 @ Convention Center   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] ART EVENT: Town Hall Meeting with Michael Mazur, the new Executive Director of the Fresno Art Museum   Starr Lopez
• [MindHub] ART EVENT: Opening Reception at Fresno Art Museum   Starr Lopez
• [MindHub] OT: Water Meter Volunteers Needed   Jennifer Seita
• [MindHub] Peace Community Crafts Faire Dec. 6   Doreen
• [MindHub] INTRO: Kellie Townsend, non-lurker   Kellie Townsend
• [MindHub] ART: Looking For Artist Who Want To Show   Travis Hauert
• [MindHub] EVENT: AMP Charter High School Info meeting tomorrow, Thursday, evening   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] EVENT--A Storytelling Tellabration in Fresno--FREE!   Mc Arthur Terrance
• [MindHub] EVENT: Hmong Voices Community Premiere   MaryJane Skjellerup
• [MindHub] ART: Show on Friday Nov 21 @ Milano on Fulton Mall in downtown Fresno   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] EVENT: AMP/ACEL Info meeting Tuesday December 2 at Woodward Park Library and OAQ   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] Event Posting   Fabiola Gonzalez
• [MindHub] Help Kids Learn About Beethoven!   Katrina Semsem
• [MindHub] Only four days left to nominate your Chidl-Friendly Business.   Courtney Shapiro
• [MindHub] EVENT--Fresno Tellabration--Sat., Nov. 22--4pm--FREE!   Mc Arthur Terrance
• [MindHub] trey tonight   ksimsarian at aol.com
• [MindHub] Event: Songs of the Winter Holidays @ The Fowler Branch Library   Gibbs, Sara
• [MindHub] Event: Web 2.0: Joining the Online Internet Community @ Fowler Branch Library   Gibbs, Sara
• [MindHub] $24.46   Jeff Gerlitz
• [MindHub] Hello out there...see you for the Cafe Corazon party/benefit?   Blake Jones
• [MindHub] Little by Little We Climb the Mountain by Sean Thomas   Cindy Wathen
• [MindHub] Event   Cooper, Will
• [MindHub] Acoustic Highway & Friends   joannecalhoun at comcast.net
• [MindHub] ART: Dec. 4 ArtHop @ Sanctuary Youth Services @ 1545 N St. (& Calaveras) in downtown Fresno   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] Gas   Robert Weibel
• [MindHub] City of Fresno Planning Commission meeting, Wednesday, November 19, 2008   Randy Nelson
• [MindHub] thanks, + my bad punctuation   Blake Jones
• [MindHub] Acoustic Highway   joannecalhoun at comcast.net
• [MindHub] Last day to nominate your Chidl-Friendly Business.   Courtney Shapiro
• [MindHub] ART: Wings Gala Art Show on ArtHop Thursday, December 4 @ the Veterans Memorial Auditorium   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] ART: January 1, 2009 ArtHop changed to January 8   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] Photography question   James Collier
• [MindHub] Event: Creative Fresno's Creative Blender!   Donavan Byrn
• [MindHub] Event: Creative Fresno's Creative Blender!   Donavan Byrn
• [MindHub] EVENT: Thanksgiving Eve Jazz Vespers, Wed 26 Nov   David Aus
• [MindHub] ART: Wings Gala Art Show on ArtHop Thursday, December 4 @ the Veterans Memorial Auditorium   Maria Franco
• [MindHub] Im on centralvalleytalk.com Live 2Night at 6pm   nativevisionz at juno.com
• [MindHub] South Stadium Project Draft EIR Notice of Availability   Chad Wakefield
• [MindHub] ART: Dec. 4 Arthop at the Bus Barn   Emily Peters
• [MindHub] FREE Lunch and Business Seminar   Jen Palmer
• [MindHub] EVENT: Fresno Met presents Black & White Ball 12/6   John English
• [MindHub] EVENT: Fresno Met Winter Camp! 12/22-23, 12/29-31   John English
• [MindHub] Art: don't wait 'til the new year to start a new thing   Ritsuko Miyazaki
• [MindHub] Event calendar submissions for Warnors Center for the Performing Arts   Valerie
• [MindHub] Fw: Central Valley Greatest Loser   gabb fitness
• [MindHub] Event: The Tower Theatre   Susan Neville
• [MindHub] Marriage Equality, the Civil Rights Struggle of the 21st Century   Mike Rhodes
• [MindHub] ART: Black Friday Art Show at Broadway Studios   Teresa M Flores
• [MindHub] Calendar & Art Hop Event   Gary Gagnebin
• [MindHub] (com-soc-art-capitalism) Go buy some art from some sweet poor young starving artists, you cold hearted jerk...   E Field
• [MindHub] EVENT   Juliana Harris
• [MindHub] Full Circle Saturday November 29th   joannecalhoun at comcast.net
• [MindHub] Event   Juliana Harris
• [MindHub] Christmas Tree Lane Walk   Susan Stiltz
• [MindHub] Open Studio   juliemitchell_art at sti.net
• [MindHub] art Open Studio   juliemitchell_art at sti.net
• [MindHub] Event: Music at FresnoBeehive.com's (free)Birthday party!   Blake Jones
• [MindHub] woops, that cool free BEEHIVE.COM is Friday, the 5th   Blake Jones
• [MindHub] Giant Sequoia Planting and Party Dec. 13th   Mehmet McMillan
• [MindHub] Event: FMUG December 2   Judy Ganulin
• [MindHub] ART   marcos dorado
• [MindHub] EVENT: New charter high school info meeting Tuesday evening   Huffhaus
• [MindHub] Peace Community Crafts Faire this Saturday - with Raging Grannies!   Doreen
• [MindHub] ART: Lea McAndrews December ArtHop at the Brass Unicorn   Lea McAndrews
• [MindHub] OT: Best Burger   Lea McAndrews

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